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01-06-09, 01:45 PM
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Help required please

Although I am, in most cases, not keen on coloured shots being transformed into mono I think I should learn to do it as there are times when it is what is required.

I am using a not very good shot of Saxon because it is the handling of the conversion I need help with.

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with the green increased



With the blue increased a little and the green decreased a lot


Sure there must be more to it than fiddling to taste so can you find the time to offer help and suggestions please.
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01-06-09, 01:51 PM
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Re: Help required please

Why not just desaturate and then play with the levels until you get the contrast you want? That's how I normally do it
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01-06-09, 01:58 PM
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Re: Help required please

Will try that, I used the B & W control in CS3 and got a bit confused. To come clean when I see others say very nice conversion I don't really know why, the shot looks ok but how was it achieved, when I try I mess around fiddling and have no idea what I am doing. When I am PP on a colour image I know just what I want and in most cases how to get it, with mono I am floundering to try to achieve those soft tones you can get in a darkroom and an old film camera.
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01-06-09, 07:37 PM
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Saxon in B & W

Re: Help required please

Still working at the mono lark and I don't think I have got the hang of it, what you think folks, please take time to help.

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01-06-09, 08:21 PM
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Re: Help required please

Im not sure whether its noisey or slightly OOF Jackie. What does the original look like?
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01-06-09, 08:27 PM
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Re: Help required please

Think in all probability both Dawn, I was using odd snaps to try to understand the conversion to mono, perhaps should have used a decent shot but could not find anything I though would convert.

I have a big problem with most mono but I do want to learn how to do it.
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01-06-09, 09:06 PM
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Re: Help required please

Its not too bad though, it looks like a really old picture, I kinda like it.
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01-06-09, 09:14 PM
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Re: Help required please

I do the same as Azz says, its the easy option I think!
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01-06-09, 09:16 PM
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Re: Help required please

Start off with a well composed shot Snapper then practise on that A noisy/bad shot will still be a noisy/bad shot even after mono conversion :-/
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01-06-09, 09:19 PM
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Re: Help required please

Thing is I don't know when it is right, I fiddle for ages, take a second look and then delete I just can't get what I am aiming for which is more graduation, more grey tones and a overall softer look.
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