I guess it would all be down to pricing.

5DMk11 = £2000

50D/60D = £900 (I know 60D is not out yet)

So that leaves a massive gap in the range for a £1,300-£1,500 camera, aka the 7D.

There is a couple of grand between the 5D and the 1D, so again, why not a 3D at a mid priced £3,000 ish?

Some people still buy on value, maybe because they beleive the more you spend the more you get, which is generally true, but not always proportionally true, not on a buck per bang scale anyway. When you think about it, apart the FF sensor there are not a lot of differences between the 500D and the 5DMk11, especially in terms of image quality, there are of course differences, but are there £1,500 of differences?

Alan.

All the more reason

Latest 7d specs list update which were leaked on a Chinese forum



1. 18MP APSC CMOS
2. Dual DIGIC 4
3. 8 FPS (~14 FINE JPEG/ 15 RAW)
4. New eight-directional double cross central AF point, total 19 cross AF points
5. ISO 100-6400 (Exp 12800)
6. ~100% 1.0X magni VF with intelligent display, horizon assist
7. New iFCL metering (exposure and colour)
8. 3′ 920K Version II LCD, 160 deg viewing
9. Full HD video (w external mic input n HDMI output)
10. Live view w Face-priority AF
11. New switch for Live View/Video mode
12. Aero-dynamic body design, metallic shutter sound, 150K shutter life
13. New 24mm built-in flash, supports EOS intelligent speedlite system
14. A.L.O
15. P.I.C
16. Picture style
17. EOS Integrated Dust Removal system

What really interests me in this new camera is the 8fps, the new AF (will it be better than 50d?) the new iFCL metering, and high ISO capabillity. And, of course, how the new 18mp sensor compares to the 50d.

I certainly won't be buying this camera when it's released- even if I wanted to, I could'nt anyway. I'll bide my time and see if there is any significant improvement over the 50d (IQ) and if it gets good reviews only then would I consider selling my 50d to get this cam.

I have a feeling that the IQ will be the same as the 50d with better AF and metering, so, the selling point will probablly be the high fps, AF and metering as well as the other new bits n bobs

As for price, well, pointless mentioning this as we in the UK get ripped off anyway but the price for USA: $1699 Body
. If that price is correct then it would be just over £1000 here, but it will be much more than that i'm sure.

Well the 50D already does ISO 12800, so you should know what that is like already (unuseable if we are honest)

18MP is only about a 17% increase over the 50D 15Mpixels, not enough to shout about either.

I guess this does at least have the video modes that the 50D missed out on, but price will be important, I think around £1200 initially, but it can't be too expensive as the 60D is due early 2010 and will undoubtably have most of the same bells and whistles.

In fact, thinking about it, as I mentioned earlier, what does this camera do that the really cheap 500D doesn't do? (That you would pay over double the price for)

Anyone who is thinking 'it's got more megapixels' need not reply

Alan.

I should have said "High ISO noise handling" My 50d is very good up to 2000 ISO and a little beyond that depending on the lighting and exposure(and probablly the same as the 40d as well). My 5dMKII is excellent at 4000 and certainly usable beyond that up to 6500.

I would be hoping for the 7d to have better noise handling/cleaner images than the 50d/40d, at high ISO. If Canon has been listening to it's users then this cam should be better in that respect.

I'm not bothered about the increase in mp as long as it does not affect IQ, ie introduces noise and/or soft images.

I have no idea what the IQ is like on the 500d but i'm sure it's comparible to the image quality of the 50d.

What it does not have is the FPS of the 50d, the micro lens adjustment feature, the build quality of the 50d - 500d is full of plastic and not weather sealed. The 50d is magnesium alloy and weather sealed. I don't know enough about the 500d to comment on it's other features to compare with my 50d but I'm sure some will be less advanced or accurate , lets say, than the 50d an example of that would be the AF and metering.

The 500d also takes tiny fragile SD cards to go with it's fragile and small body, whereas the 50d takes proper-robust memory cards(CF) to go with it's
better made and tougher body

Just a quick search revealed that you can get a 500d (body only) for around £535 and a 50d body for around £750. thats only £215 more not quite double the price
I just realised you were talking about the 7d which, yes will probablly be double the price of the 500d. But the 500d has came down on price since it's first release surely? I think there would have only been a £400 differance between the 500d and 50d when they went on sale.

So, in answer to your question, yes, I would pay that price differance for the clearly better all round cam IMO

The 500D is a great camera, I have used one as my friend bought one not long ago.

I think price comparison at this time is a little unfair, Canon is still cashing in on the '
newness' of the 500D. When the price between the 500D and 50D equalises, then it might make more sense.

I have never had any issues with SD memory, maybe you have? Yes, the body is plastic, but it still is coated and feels really nice to hold, it is a nice small body too, so is a great body to have if you just want to take something small and light out.

The micro lens adjustment seemed like a good idea, but I only have one lens that is off, and that is a Sigma, all my Canon lenses were ok, so I only have 1 lens stored in the Micro Adjustment settings (it's fiddly to set up too)

Not sure about the noise, it's not going to get better than the 5dmk2, but it may come close, if they are positioning it above the XXD range that is.

But then, 60D, rumoured for Feb next year will use Digic 5 with more in body processing still, so could outperform the 7D in noise?

Alan.

No, never had any problems with them as I have never had much use for them except in two camcorders for capturing still images which I never used.

But you must admit they are very small and lightweight and would probablly blow out of your hand in a gust of wind, not to mention that they would easily become lost in a pocket or worse still, fall out.

I would be very worried about shooting with those cards when having to change them when full and then losing them. I suppose you could say the same for CF cards but I'd feel much safer shooting to CF than SD.

I'm sure there was mention of dual memory card slots on the 7d but I can't find the text now. If so, then it would be CF and SD, I know what I won't be buying


I don't mind a little rain getting on my 50d and lenses (which has happened on many occasions) but would be concerned using a 500d out in anything other than dry weather. All my lenses are weather sealed too.

Weird that its called the 7d, would have thought that will bring confusion to the 5d ?!

Nice find Grant - i'll certainly be interested in watching this one!

Hi Gh. I think we will find out tomorrow everything about this camera as there should be a 7d press release from Canon.

Did you know there is also a new 100mm f2.8 L IS macro USM from Canon?



btw when you going to post some more of your excellent macro images?