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25-02-10, 11:21 PM
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Question for Dejavu (Grant)

Grant if I can ask

You use Adobe CS4 to do your editing in yet you have your camera set in sRGB like most of us do.
If you had the camera set using Adobe RGB wouldn't that be more compatible with the editing suite?

What difference is there between the camera Adobe RGB and sRGB before doing any editing in the picture, and which is better ?

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26-02-10, 01:44 AM
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Re: Question for Dejavu (Grant)

Basically, Adobe RGB has a wider colour gamut than sRGB, not more colours, rather more colour variations.

Since I always shoot RAW images, having the camera colour space set to sRGB makes no difference as I can convert to other colour spaces including apple rgb, wide gamut rgb and colour match rgb at PP stage.

I sell images on Red bubble and they require sRGB colour spaces for there printers as they are calibrated to that colour space but I could use Adobe rgb if someone else required that colour space.

If you use highest quality inkjet paper and want to see a print that matches what your camera recorded, then use adobe rgb colour space and save your files as 16bit for editing before finally printing.

There are a lot of in-depth articles on the web covering this topic, Bazza, and will explain it better than I can.
I'm certainly no expert in colour spaces/printing
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26-02-10, 02:41 AM
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Re: Question for Dejavu (Grant)

How do you find red bubble Grant ?

I noticed you used them last time I was having a nosey.....
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26-02-10, 02:45 AM
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Re: Question for Dejavu (Grant)

Thanks for your reply Grant it does answer what I was wondering

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26-02-10, 10:44 PM
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Re: Question for Dejavu (Grant)

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How do you find red bubble Grant ?

I noticed you used them last time I was having a nosey.....
Compared with other similar "sell your images" sites that I signed up with before, I think this one is really good.

I joined November 2009 and have had a few of my images displayed on there main page and have had around 12 other images featured on photography groups within the site. I have been featured as well

I know someone who bought a few cards, calendar and a framed image of my work, and although it took just over two weeks for delivery, they were impressed with the quality of the prints.

I know I'm never going to sell very much but it's a great place to get yourself noticed.

It's not just for photography either, artists, graphic designers and writers can show/sell there work not just on paper but on t-shirts, mugs etc.

Check it out Phil
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27-02-10, 10:45 AM
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Re: Question for Dejavu (Grant)

Perhaps someone could advise re my own setup. My camera has the choice of sRGB or Adobe RGB my printer (Epsom Stylus DX9400F (not the best I know)), has many options including Colourmatch RBG and sRGB Colour Space Profile.

My problem is one of reproducing skin tone/colour as it is on the screen, at present skin is far too pink. The pictures I were shot in jpeg. Would be greatful for any suggestions.

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27-02-10, 03:18 PM
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Re: Question for Dejavu (Grant)

Sounds like your monitor needs calibrated. What type of monitor do you have, CRT/LCD and how old is it?

If it is your printouts that are appearing pinky rather than on screen then you could try adjusting the colours in the printers driver software i.e select colour manage and reduce the sliders or try reducung the Magenta colour in your eding program.

If you are using epson paper and epson ink, then select the colour profile for your printer
in your editing program for printing, (the profile should start with the name of your printer)
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27-02-10, 06:31 PM
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Re: Question for Dejavu (Grant)

Hi Grant. It is an LCD monitor and only about 12 months old. The picture on the screen looks fine but it prints out skin tones very pink. I will look at your suggestions over the next few days.

Many thanks.

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27-02-10, 08:23 PM
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Re: Question for Dejavu (Grant)

Apparently, everyone really should be callibrated. It may look fine on your screen but you aren't necessarily seeing an accurate representation. This is not a reflection of quality or age of monitor - just the way things are.
I think my monitor is a fairly good match, but I'm planning to get myself a callibrator soon.
The one I have had recommended (by a photo editing professional) as this one for someone on a budget:
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27-02-10, 09:13 PM
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Re: Question for Dejavu (Grant)

[quote=little me;94179]Apparently, everyone really should be callibrated. It may look fine on your screen but you aren't necessarily seeing an accurate representation. This is not a reflection of quality or age of monitor - just the way things are.QUOTE]


It most definitely can be a reflection of the quality and age of monitor, Little me, especially if using a TN monitor. TN monitors are good for gamers because of the fast response times, but not good for photo editing because they are 6bit with a narrow viewing angle and have innacurate colours even after calibrating.

S-IPS monitors are 8bit and have a wider colour gamut and viewing angles than TN displays, so, much better suited for photographers and image editing.


forgot to add. CRT's can lose there brightness over many years of use and show colour bleed
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